Guinness77

Hi,
I have been using eac for awhile now, and decided to try out accuraterip. I downloaded the newest version, installed. I am using a Plextor 708A. I found my offset with the program, and have the following options checked:


Used drive : PLEXTOR DVDR PX-708A Adapter: 3 ID: 0

Read mode : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache : Yes
Make use of C2 pointers : Yes

Read offset correction : 30
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : Yes
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations : No
Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling : Not detected, thus appended to previous track





How can I configure accuratetip plugin? I have tried about 20 cd's from the key list, and I have ripped about 50 others, but it does not pop up. Do I actually have to rip the cd, or can I just pop it in?

I have also used a second drive with these settings, and it does not work either. Thanks for your help.



Used drive : _NEC DVD+-RW ND-3450A Adapter: 3 ID: 1

Read mode : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache : No
Make use of C2 pointers : Yes

Read offset correction : 48
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations : No
Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling : Not detected, thus appended to previous track

Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
Sample format : 44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo

Fiber

Null samples used in CRC calculations : No

Set this to yes.

Guinness77

Fiber,
Thanks for getting back to me. I unchecked "no use of null samples for CRC calculations" in EAC. Now do I have to rip a cd, or can I just keep loading them until acuraterip pops up?

Thanks.

Teller

Do you have EAC set to display the rip pop up report?
F9 > General tab > Show status dialog = enabled

Are the Accuraterip results included in the log file?

Do you have the “Use Accuraterip with this Drive” option box enabled?
F10 > Offset/Speed tab > Use Accuraterip with this Drive = enabled

Guinness77

Yes, show status dialog after extraction is enabled.

The Accuraterip results are not in the log file.

The "use accuraterip with this drive" is not checked. The option is greyed out, I do not have access to it.

Thanks

Guinness77

This is my log report:

Used drive : PLEXTOR DVDR PX-708A Adapter: 3 ID: 0

Read mode : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache : Yes
Make use of C2 pointers : Yes

Read offset correction : 30
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : Yes
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations : Yes
Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling : Not detected, thus appended to previous track

Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
Sample format : 44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo


TOC of the extracted CD

Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
---------------------------------------------------------
1 | 0:00.00 | 4:20.25 | 0 | 19524
2 | 4:20.25 | 3:44.21 | 19525 | 36345
3 | 8:04.46 | 4:18.69 | 36346 | 55764
4 | 12:23.40 | 3:06.45 | 55765 | 69759
5 | 15:30.10 | 3:39.24 | 69760 | 86208
6 | 19:09.34 | 3:58.13 | 86209 | 104071
7 | 23:07.47 | 3:34.53 | 104072 | 120174
8 | 26:42.25 | 3:00.42 | 120175 | 133716
9 | 29:42.67 | 3:38.01 | 133717 | 150067
10 | 33:20.68 | 4:01.54 | 150068 | 168196
11 | 37:22.47 | 4:15.39 | 168197 | 187360


Track 1

Filename F:\Jamie\Music\Nickelback\01 Follow You Home.wav

Peak level 96.6 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC F477EC2C
Copy OK

No errors occurred

End of status report

Teller

ok

Look in the EAC installation folder for file AccurateRip.dll
If it is not there then re-install EAC


Is the read offset input box grayed out and blocked from input?
If not then Accuraterip could not use any of the discs you ripped and is not set up.
You don’t need to rip and when you put a disc in the drive you should see a pop up window that says EAC is communicating with Accuraterip.

Did you see any pop up messages about accuraterip, especially one that said Accuraterip would be disabled due to an inconsistent disc or offsets?



Also, your firewall or other settings may be blocking communication with Accuraterip

Guinness77

Yes,
The AccurateRip.dll (It is 3.0.0.1) is in C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy.

The use read offset is not greyed out. I have it selected with an offset of +48 chosen. I looked up in the drive database and that was the suggested offset, and I also tested it with a few cd's ( I put them in and EAC detected the offset of +48).


I have not seen any pop ups from AccurateRip. How do I confirm it is loaded? I searched other threads. I do have "Send AccurateRip results under the Database tab, but there are no discs to be reported. There is no other menu or symbol showing that AccurateRip is loaded that I can see.

I do not think the firewall is a problem. I have shut down the firewall but still nothing. Hmm..

Guinness77

Does anybody have any other suggestions?
I disabled the firewall and loaded 40 cd's from the key list before I became frustrated. None of them activated the AccurateRip plugin. A few of them worked with EAC's offset detector database. Now I did not rip these CD's, just loaded them in and got the info from the database.

Is there a way to confirm that the the plugin is actually loaded in EAC?

Thanks

Teller

The AccurateRip dll loads when you open EAC. If you can open the “Send Accuraterip Results …” dialog (last item on the Database menu) then it’s loaded. While you have that screen open click on advanced and make sure you have “Online” checked and “Local” un-checked.
The “Don’t display results” should also be un-checked.


Detect the gaps of a cd and make sure that gap handling is set to the default.


Open Regedit
Go to the registry key “HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Illustrate\dBpowerAMP\CD-NoAccurateRip”
This value should be “0x000000 (0)”, if not set it to zero.


You could also do a complete clean install.
Delete EAC.
Backup and then delete all the registry entries of Awsoftware and Illustrate
Install the new version (99.4) only.

Restart EAC after making changes

greynol

As of V0.99 (the version used by the OP), this doesn't matter anymore. In fact, EAC can still get AR will still check your rips so long as gaps actually exist on the disc and aren't being left out.

Excellent tidbit of information, BTW. I think this gets set when your drive doesn't return a consistent offset when calibrating with a key disc despite the real possibility that a different pressing may not have a consistent offset with every track.

Guinness77

Thanks,
That fixed the problem!

I changed what Teller suggested:

Go to the registry key “HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Illustrate\dBpowerAMP\CD-NoAccurateRip”
This value should be “0x000000 (0)”, if not set it to zero.


That was not set to zero. I set it to 0, popped in a disc and I was able to calibrate both drives. Thanks again for all the help. I have been using EAC .9 Beta 4 for the longest time now, and I do not remember seeing AccurateRip Pop up before.

Oh,

Greynol, I have a question for you. I noticed that you use or at least tried out the eliminate cache command. Do you recommend using the -usefua command with the Plextor 708A 1.11? How do you use that command anyways? I looked and did not see any spot for a command string in EAC.



One more thing too (I hate to be a real pain)

I have ripped ton's of CD's using my NEC drive in secure mode but without the offset corrected. I have probably 200 cd's like that. I would hate to spend all the time and go back and re-rip everything with the correct offset of +48. I do not notice any difference while listening, but I still have not connected my computer up to my main stereo, so who knows. My main concern would be on live CD's, if they would be a blip or so between tracks. Is it worthwhile to go back and re-rip, or should I just live with it.

Thanks

Teller

just live with it

The offset correction is a way of drive calibration so rips from many drives can be used easily for comparison purposes. Accuraterip is an example in practice. From a listener standpoint you will never hear any difference between a corrected and non corrected rip.

Teller

I had a feeling you would like that one

greynol

Thanks for the thanks but Teller deserves all the credit.

To answer your questions, yes I advise using -usefua with this drive and have been given good reason to believe it is more trustworthy than EAC's standard cache flushing when ripping with C2 pointers (which I also recommend with this drive). This switch is invoked when you start EAC. Assuming you're using a shortcut for the program, modify the target so that it says:

"C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\EAC.exe" -usefua

(or wherever you keep EAC.exe if not C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy)

When starting EAC with -usefua, you no longer have to configure the drive as caching audio data. I strongly recommend that you test to make sure the command works since there are programs that may interfere with its operation. In order to test, rip a scratched CD and verify that EAC is able to report a read error as displayed in EAC's Status and Error Messages dialog.

As for ripping without an offset correction, it has absolutely no impact on sound quality. An offset is a time shift in the data; nothing more, nothing less.