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Old 04-02-2002   #1
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Question question about compression

Hi,

How to make a compressed(mp3) image of an opera audio cd that is able to be burned with correct original tracks and the best quality?
(I hope I'm clear?)
In fact I made an image & cue sheet of the cd but I don't think this*cue will work if I compress this image?
Or is it possible to directly make a compressed image with its *cue with eac?
What should I do?

Thanx for an idea,

M.

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Old 04-02-2002   #2
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this might help:

A. ripping and encoding
Step 1: ripping

You need EAC for this. Instead of ripping the cd as the usual one track each song, you can also rip it as one big continuous wav, and save the TOC (table of contents) in a CUE file. Cue files are recognized by Cdrwin, Fireburner and EAC. Everything is saved in this CUE in order to reproduce an exact replica of the original source, including correct pre-gaps, pauses and name information that can be utilised for the cd-text feature if your cdr supports it.


After the rip there is one "Sting - Brand New Day.wav " and a "Sting - Brand New Day.cue" on your hd if all went ok.

A cue file looks like this(open it with notepad) :


PERFORMER "Sting"
TITLE "Brand New Day"
FILE "F:\r3mix.net\perfectrip\Sting - Brand New Day.wav" WAVE
TRACK 01 AUDIO
TITLE "A Thousand Years"
PERFORMER "Sting"
INDEX 01 00:00:00
TRACK 02 AUDIO
TITLE "Desert Rose"
PERFORMER "Sting"
INDEX 01 05:57:15
TRACK 03 AUDIO
TITLE "Big Lie Small World"
PERFORMER "Sting"
INDEX 01 1012
TRACK 04 AUDIO
TITLE "After The Rain Has Fallen"
PERFORMER "Sting"
INDEX 01 1517
TRACK 05 AUDIO
TITLE "Perfect Love... Gone Wrong"
PERFORMER "Sting"
INDEX 01 2025
TRACK 06 AUDIO
TITLE "Tomorrow We'll See"
PERFORMER "Sting"
INDEX 01 2630
TRACK 07 AUDIO
TITLE "Prelude To The End Of The Game"
PERFORMER "Sting"
INDEX 00 31:03:74
INDEX 01 31:05:10
TRACK 08 AUDIO
TITLE "Fill Her Up"
PERFORMER "Sting"
INDEX 00 3137
INDEX 01 3105
TRACK 09 AUDIO
TITLE "Ghost Story"
PERFORMER "Sting"
INDEX 01 37:04:35
TRACK 10 AUDIO
TITLE "Brand New Day"
PERFORMER "Sting"
INDEX 01 42:34:05

Step 2: encoding

You can encode your 1 wav file with your favorite encoder at your preferred bitrate.

Now you can delete the original WAV file, but be sure to keep the CUE file as this is the only thing that will remind your future cdr copy derived from the mp3 where the tracks on the cdr must start.


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Playing the one big mp3 file : mp3cue ( GuerillaSoft , 184 kbytes )
If you use winamp to playback your mp3's (advised) you can directly access al the tracks in your one big mp3 album! All you need is a small winamp plugin by GuerillaSoft called mp3cue. It will look in the dir your mp3 is located for a .cue file and if found will then present you with a playlist:



It also comes in a practical winshade mode: which will fit nicely in some corner of your screen or just stick it to winamp: I think I found my setting :

You can now easily navigate to the next, previous or any song in your big mp3 file by just clicking the name or using the |< and >| buttons. The analyzers plugin is called Sexy Attached Analyzers v1.61 and I'm using my own setting.

mp3cue comes with the option to embed the cue info in the mp3 using an ID3v2 tag, but I don't advise this. There are still some implementation problems and in the end it's always the wisest thing to always keep your original cue for later use. There are ever more programs using cue data so it's never wise to delete the small file.


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C. making a replica of the original live or mixed cd

Step 3: decoding


Step 4: fixing the CUE sheet

After decoding has taken place, you will, again, have a WAV-file (+CUE-file) on your hd. Most of the time, the name of this wav file will not be the same as the name+complete path of the original wav of which the mp3 was made.

Therefore, you need to edit the cue file (which is a normal textfile), so that the .WAV mentioned on the 3th line has the correct name:

FILE "F:\r3mix.net\perfectrip\Sting - Brand New Day.wav" WAVE

should be:

FILE " Brand New Day.wav" WAVE

in our case. Now the WAV+CUE are a complementary pair again, and you can go on to burn the copy.

Step 5: burning a copy

A WAV+CUE combination can be burned by Cdrwin, Fireburner and also EAC. EAC is free, works ok and looks nice, so I used this one for the example.

Go to the "Tools" Menu, "Write CD-R", then go to the "File" menu, and "Import CUE sheet" and load up the cue file. Now go to the "CD-R" menu and choose "Write CD" to commence burning. Be easy on the cpu from now on since the caching system is not very optimal, and a buffer underrun is closer than you think. ;-)


Voila, the cdr you just created is just about the best possible replica achievable by mp3.
The indexes could be a few hundreths of a second off compared to the original album, but this is the unavoidable encoder+decoder delay. If you use lame for both encoding and decoding most of this difference will be compensated for when decoding using "lame --decode".

I hope all is somewhat easy to understand and the information was of use to you.

the link:
http://www.r3mix.net/
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Old 04-02-2002   #3
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ok! thanx for this complete answer.

As I see, the coded image needs to be decoded before burning.
There is no way to burn directly from mp3 file and keep original tracks.

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not through eac

I don't know about other software(i'm guessing no, anyone?)
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Of course direct writing is possible with EAC!! EAC writes directly MP3, MP+ (MPC) and APE (MAC) files "on-the-fly"!
(As long the appropriate decoder is installed)

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sorry, better learn more before I post!
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