Last 1% of Test and Copy always errors

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  1. bordonbert

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    Hi.

    EAC has worked for years for me without any problems. I have ripped hundreds of CDs in that time and it does it all without effort. I now have a problem which has come out of nowhere which I can't understand and can't see any way of correcting.

    I have a CD. I rip the entire CD to a single FLAC file using the external compressor. The gaps are detected correctly. The Test goes by without a problem. The Copy proceeds until the end of the last track and at the last 1% of the job a few read errors then a synch error then constant read errors show up and the whole process just swamps the error correction which steps through the full set of red indicators continuously. If left for long enough the copy finishes but the file has bad errors in that last 1% and won't play that section.

    So it looks as though the first 99% or so of the CD is error free. If I then go through the same process with just the first two tracks the exact same thing happens, and that is with tracks which have shown up to be error free in the previous rip.

    I have searched the forum and found that Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out on the Drive Options > Offset / Speed Tab can cause problem of this sort. I've checked and in my case this is unchecked.

    I have used EAC's drive testing capability and it found I have no caching which is unchecked, Accurate Stream is present and checked, C2 error information is present and checked. Autodetecting Read Command came up with MMC1 which is selected, (though it's not a SCSI drive).

    Can anyone please suggest what is going on here?
     
  2. korth

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    Could you post the extraction log
     
  3. bordonbert

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    Hope this is what you want. I selected three tracks at the start of the album and was going to rip them, then the first two to show that track two would pass the first but fail the second when it was the last track in the job. I selected EAC's Test and Copy Image and Create Cue Sheet and it has done the whole CD of course. Speed varied. It was about 14x for most of the CD then, when it reached the problem part, it dropped to about 6x and gradually got slower until it finished at about 3.5x.

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    Exact Audio Copy V1.0 beta 3 from 29. August 2011

    EAC extraction logfile from 9. February 2017, 8:21

    Eric Clapton / August

    Used drive : HL-DT-STDVDRAM GH22NS50 Adapter: 1 ID: 1

    Read mode : Secure
    Utilize accurate stream : Yes
    Defeat audio cache : No
    Make use of C2 pointers : Yes

    Read offset correction : 667
    Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
    Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
    Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
    Null samples used in CRC calculations : Yes
    Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000

    Used output format : User Defined Encoder
    Selected bitrate : 896 kBit/s
    Quality : High
    Add ID3 tag : No
    Command line compressor : C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\FLAC\FLAC.EXE
    Additional command line options : -6 -V -T "ARTIST=%artist%" -T "TITLE=%title%" -T "ALBUM=%albumtitle%" -T "DATE=%year%" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%tracknr%" -T "GENRE=%genre%" -T "ALBUMARTIST=%albuminterpret%" -T "COMPOSER=%composer%" -T "DISCNUMBER=%cdnumber%" -T "TOTALDISCS=%totalcds%" -T "TOTALTRACKS=%numtracks%" -T --tag-from-file=CUESHEET="%albumtitle%.cue" -T --cuesheet="%albumtitle%.cue" %source% -o %dest%


    TOC of the extracted CD

    Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    1 | 0:00.00 | 4:11.15 | 0 | 18839
    2 | 4:11.15 | 3:38.67 | 18840 | 35256
    3 | 7:50.07 | 4:14.35 | 35257 | 54341
    4 | 12:04.42 | 5:08.18 | 54342 | 77459
    5 | 17:12.60 | 3:51.30 | 77460 | 94814
    6 | 21:04.15 | 3:53.00 | 94815 | 112289
    7 | 24:57.15 | 4:52.60 | 112290 | 134249
    8 | 29:50.00 | 4:55.17 | 134250 | 156391
    9 | 34:45.17 | 5:05.13 | 156392 | 179279
    10 | 39:50.30 | 4:54.15 | 179280 | 201344
    11 | 44:44.45 | 4:46.40 | 201345 | 222834
    12 | 49:31.10 | 6:22.12 | 222835 | 251496


    Range status and errors

    Selected range

    Filename E:\Music\EAC\August Test1.wav

    Suspicious position 0:55:18 - 0:55:53

    Peak level 89.1 %
    Extraction speed 3.7 X
    Range quality 96.6 %
    Test CRC 8A4C5DC0
    Copy CRC 95BC8DCE
    Copy finished

    There were errors

    AccurateRip summary
    Track 1 accurately ripped (confidence 26) [34CA7EF9] (AR v2)
    Track 2 accurately ripped (confidence 26) [DD1D8090] (AR v2)
    Track 3 accurately ripped (confidence 26) [7AB1039A] (AR v2)
    Track 4 accurately ripped (confidence 25) [BCA99CC6] (AR v2)
    Track 5 accurately ripped (confidence 26) [86483792] (AR v2)
    Track 6 accurately ripped (confidence 26) [D5EF7584] (AR v2)
    Track 7 accurately ripped (confidence 26) [001DA217] (AR v2)
    Track 8 accurately ripped (confidence 25) [281320DB] (AR v2)
    Track 9 accurately ripped (confidence 24) [58E15E58] (AR v2)
    Track 10 accurately ripped (confidence 24) [38A80FE5] (AR v2)
    Track 11 accurately ripped (confidence 25) [5483A25F] (AR v2)
    Track 12 cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 105) [28084A3E], AccurateRip returned [FB137B15] (AR v2)
    11 track(s) accurately ripped
    1 track(s) could not be verified as accurate

    Some tracks could not be verified as accurate

    End of status report

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    Is that all that you wanted?



    EDIT: Just done the same test by selecting all tracks and choosing Test and Copy Selected Tracks. It rips and compresses them individually and the last track does exactly the same thing. If anything it started faster but finished much slower this time. I've removed the correctly read tracks for space.

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    Exact Audio Copy V1.0 beta 3 from 29. August 2011

    EAC extraction logfile from 9. February 2017, 9:09

    Eric Clapton / August

    Used drive : HL-DT-STDVDRAM GH22NS50 Adapter: 1 ID: 1

    Read mode : Secure
    Utilize accurate stream : Yes
    Defeat audio cache : No
    Make use of C2 pointers : Yes

    Read offset correction : 667
    Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
    Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
    Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
    Null samples used in CRC calculations : Yes
    Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
    Gap handling : Appended to previous track

    Used output format : User Defined Encoder
    Selected bitrate : 896 kBit/s
    Quality : High
    Add ID3 tag : No
    Command line compressor : C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\FLAC\FLAC.EXE
    Additional command line options : -6 -V -T "ARTIST=%artist%" -T "TITLE=%title%" -T "ALBUM=%albumtitle%" -T "DATE=%year%" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%tracknr%" -T "GENRE=%genre%" -T "ALBUMARTIST=%albuminterpret%" -T "COMPOSER=%composer%" -T "DISCNUMBER=%cdnumber%" -T "TOTALDISCS=%totalcds%" -T "TOTALTRACKS=%numtracks%" -T --tag-from-file=CUESHEET="%albumtitle%.cue" -T --cuesheet="%albumtitle%.cue" %source% -o %dest%


    TOC of the extracted CD

    Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
    ---------------------------------------------------------
    1 | 0:00.00 | 4:11.15 | 0 | 18839
    2 | 4:11.15 | 3:38.67 | 18840 | 35256
    3 | 7:50.07 | 4:14.35 | 35257 | 54341
    4 | 12:04.42 | 5:08.18 | 54342 | 77459
    5 | 17:12.60 | 3:51.30 | 77460 | 94814
    6 | 21:04.15 | 3:53.00 | 94815 | 112289
    7 | 24:57.15 | 4:52.60 | 112290 | 134249
    8 | 29:50.00 | 4:55.17 | 134250 | 156391
    9 | 34:45.17 | 5:05.13 | 156392 | 179279
    10 | 39:50.30 | 4:54.15 | 179280 | 201344
    11 | 44:44.45 | 4:46.40 | 201345 | 222834
    12 | 49:31.10 | 6:22.12 | 222835 | 251496


    Track 12

    Filename E:\Music\EAC\12 Grand Illusion.wav

    Pre-gap length 0:00:01.03

    Suspicious position 0:05:46 - 0:06:21

    Peak level 89.1 %
    Extraction speed 0.4 X
    Track quality 87.9 %
    Test CRC 147C4098
    Copy CRC 11A287DE
    Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 105) [43EE88DF], AccurateRip returned [FB137B15] (AR v2)
    Copy finished


    11 track(s) accurately ripped
    1 track(s) could not be verified as accurate

    Some tracks could not be verified as accurate

    There were errors

    End of status report
     
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  4. korth

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    Yes.
    Have you tried ripping the CD with 'Make use of C2 pointers' unchecked?
    Is this the only CD with this problem?
     
  5. bordonbert

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    Well what do you know!!! As you suggested, I did the obvious thing (in hindsight) and tried it with a different CD. No errors, 100% perfect. It looks like it is just the CD at fault.

    The back story of this is that I bought it online, took delivery, found I couldn't rip it accurately and reported it to the sellers. They were great and sent me out an immediate replacement but that one was exactly the same in exactly the same places. And the CDs do look perfect to the naked eye. It plays correctly in Foobar2000 but when I ask Foobar to convert it to flac, (using the same flac.exe command line app that EAC uses), it goes into the same really slow grind but very early on in the CD, maybe 5% in. Can it be a faulty pressing issue? Does anyone have a copy of Eric Clapton's "August" album they could check it out on?

    Thanks for your help Korth. I know it wasn't the most interesting of problems to assist with but you got me through. Any advice on what is going on would be welcome, I hate solving an issue without ending up wiser about what caused it. If you haven't learned anything, where do you go when it happens next time?
     
  6. korth

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    Could be a manufacturing flaw. I've run across a few. Some could be read by one drive but errors in another.
    There is a similar thread currently in another forum.
    CD is MINT but EAC can't rip for the life of me
    I don't know if the suggested "Error recovery quality" setting would help on your CD. A higher setting increases the number of rereads on errors.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up, that's an interesting thread and still current. I'll follow that one from here on in.
     
  8. korth

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    This is a different version of the CD. Note the track start positions and lengths. The CD does have scratches but funny the problem area is similar.
    Code:
    Exact Audio Copy V1.3 from 2. September 2016
    
    EAC extraction logfile from 15. February 2017, 8:02
    
    Eric Clapton / August
    
    Used drive  : ASUS    DRW-24B1ST   a   Adapter: 1  ID: 0
    
    Read mode               : Secure
    Utilize accurate stream : Yes
    Defeat audio cache      : No
    Make use of C2 pointers : No
    
    Read offset correction                      : 6
    Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out          : No
    Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
    Delete leading and trailing silent blocks   : No
    Null samples used in CRC calculations       : Yes
    Used interface                              : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
    
    Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
    Sample format      : 44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo
    
    
    TOC of the extracted CD
    
         Track |   Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector
        ---------------------------------------------------------
            1  |  0:00.32 |  4:11.50 |        32    |    18906 
            2  |  4:12.07 |  3:39.68 |     18907    |    35399 
            3  |  7:52.00 |  4:15.57 |     35400    |    54581 
            4  | 12:07.57 |  5:09.33 |     54582    |    77789 
            5  | 17:17.15 |  3:52.32 |     77790    |    95221 
            6  | 21:09.47 |  3:53.65 |     95222    |   112761 
            7  | 25:03.37 |  4:54.10 |    112762    |   134821 
            8  | 29:57.47 |  4:56.40 |    134822    |   157061 
            9  | 34:54.12 |  5:06.38 |    157062    |   180049 
           10  | 40:00.50 |  4:55.40 |    180050    |   202214 
           11  | 44:56.15 |  4:47.60 |    202215    |   223799 
           12  | 49:44.00 |  6:23.05 |    223800    |   252529 
    
    
    Range status and errors
    
    Selected range
    
         Filename K:\Music\Eric Clapton - August.wav
    
         Suspicious position 0:53:43 - 0:53:58
         Suspicious position 0:54:00
    
         Peak level 99.9 %
         Extraction speed 6.7 X
         Range quality 99.4 %
         Copy CRC 53FE4374
         Copy finished
    
    There were errors
    
    AccurateRip summary
    Track  1  accurately ripped (confidence 18)  [0263F324]  (AR v2)
    Track  2  accurately ripped (confidence 18)  [29E08B3D]  (AR v2)
    Track  3  accurately ripped (confidence 18)  [33FEBBAF]  (AR v2)
    Track  4  accurately ripped (confidence 18)  [6994B911]  (AR v2)
    Track  5  accurately ripped (confidence 18)  [5570299C]  (AR v2)
    Track  6  accurately ripped (confidence 18)  [FA8D34DA]  (AR v2)
    Track  7  accurately ripped (confidence 18)  [579CEC46]  (AR v2)
    Track  8  accurately ripped (confidence 18)  [ED0D4178]  (AR v2)
    Track  9  accurately ripped (confidence 18)  [857603E6]  (AR v2)
    Track 10  accurately ripped (confidence 18)  [5552093A]  (AR v2)
    Track 11  accurately ripped (confidence 18)  [C6B8F6C2]  (AR v2)
    Track 12  cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 18)  [1881B5C9], AccurateRip returned [B7BADC82]  (AR v2)
    11 track(s) accurately ripped
    1 track(s) could not be verified as accurate
    
    Some tracks could not be verified as accurate
    
    End of status report
    
    ---- CUETools DB Plugin V2.1.6
    
    [CTDB TOCID: 8yUzRa_Jp9AIRwA5CU2tmuP.BrQ-] found
    Submit result: 8yUzRa_Jp9AIRwA5CU2tmuP.BrQ- has been submitted
    Track | CTDB Status
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      2   | (16/16) Accurately ripped
      3   | (16/16) Accurately ripped
      4   | (16/16) Accurately ripped
      5   | (16/16) Accurately ripped
      6   | (16/16) Accurately ripped
      7   | (16/16) Accurately ripped
      8   | (16/16) Accurately ripped
      9   | (16/16) Accurately ripped
    10   | (16/16) Accurately ripped
    11   | (16/16) Accurately ripped
    12   | (15/16) Differs in 6419 samples @03:59:39-03:59:40,03:59:58-03:59:59,04:00:38-04:00:39,04:00:57,04:01:00-04:01:01,04:01:19,04:01:37,04:02:18,04:03:54-04:03:55,04:03:73,04:04:16,04:04:35-04:04:36,04:05:34-04:05:35,04:06:14-04:06:15,04:06:33-04:06:34,04:06:51-04:06:52,04:06:70,04:07:13-04:07:14,04:07:32-04:07:33,04:07:51,04:07:69-04:07:70,04:08:13-04:08:14,04:08:31-04:08:32,04:08:50-04:08:51,04:08:68-04:08:69,04:09:12-04:09:13,04:09:30-04:09:31,04:09:49-04:09:50,04:09:67-04:09:68,04:10:11-04:10:12,04:10:29-04:10:30,04:10:48-04:10:49,04:10:66-04:10:67,04:11:29,04:11:66,04:12:09-04:12:10,04:12:46-04:12:47,04:13:08-04:13:09,04:13:27-04:13:28
    If you are sure that your rip contains errors, you can use CUETools to repair it.
    This rip was repaired using CUETools and all tracks now OK with AccurateRip.
     
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